Hot Start

[flash911]

the diamond is having issues with "hot start" i know there is a cure and a "how too" on t/c the question is............... as my diamond doesnt have c/c would it be possible to use the c/c buttens on the stalk as part of the hot start solution ?

[Johnraka]

I can't remember the full story behind hot start Flash but as long as you can find the wiring from the CC buttons I see no reason why they can't function as normal switches although they would probably act as 'push to make, release to break' type switches rather than on/off.
The only thing you would need to be mindful of is the amount of current going through them..

[flash911]

well it happened to me again last night , so its time to do something, just thought about using cc switch as its there but car doesnt have cc

[Johnraka]

Yeh, used to get this with my old Dippy a lot, took to carrying a CO2 extinguisher in the end and used to give a short blast under the bonnet to cool everything down - worked but had to be bloody careful 

[Whippit]

Its a simple fix with a relay, sure its covered on here in detail
basically rather than routing the live feed to the starter via the ignition and the inhibitor you use this to switch the power direct through a relay.

[Ferret]

there maybe a problem with the current being drawn using the cc cables, if it dont want to start on the first turn it could burn out the switch and the wiring whilst cranking the starter.

[flash911]

Its a simple fix with a relay, sure its covered on here in detail
basically rather than routing the live feed to the starter via the ignition and the inhibitor you use this to switch the power direct through a relay.

there is a "how too" on here, was just wondering wether i could use cc butten as the switch, via relay ?

[Johnraka]

Probably as you are using a lower current to switch a larger one (via the relay) 

[Ferret]

theres only 1 way to find out, post up the findings flash that is actually a good idea

[flash911]

going to need some help rich , im down b/hol monday , fancy helping  .
got an alarm to fit, as well as a few other bits 

[flash911]

well today it got worse, every time i turned it off i had to short the contacts on the starter to get her going, i now have 6 burns on my arm and im well hacked off .
had a chat with an auto electrician and he suggested wiring one of the 2 contacts "smaller one of the 2" i use to start it too the live terminal thru a switch then to the starter, as much as id like to trust the suggestion i thought id float it past you lot first. Good or bad idea  

Can some one point me in the right direction for the fix how to, i cant find it  

IF !! i were to use the c/c button would it be beneficial putting a fuse in line and if so what rating ?

[Murph]

Here you go Stu.
Hot Start Fix

Imagine my surprise to see that it was me that posted that one... I'd forgotten!

[flash911]

lol. thanks, so what do you think of my idea, good or bad ? work or start a fire ?

[Murph]

I think it should work TBH. The cruise button would only need to carry a switching current and you could always put a 10 amp fuse inline to be safe if theres any doubt.

Try the hot start fix first though, you may not need an alternative start button yet.

[flash911]

i'll give the hot start a try 

[chrismec]

Iv'e got to have a look at that too, mine did it the other day 

[flash911]

mine did it ........... TOO FRIGGIN MUCH FFS 

[flash911]

AND now i dont mind so much   ???I have (until i get the proper bits ) managed to solve the problem, its not tidy or permanent but it works !!
Im not going to embarass myself with pics , one length of wire, one inline fuse, one switch (need to swap for push and release type) , 2 spade connectors and 2 round connectors

[flash911]

UPDATE
Finally got butt in gear and have done the suggested "hot start cure" , didnt use c/c switch (leave that for another brain wave  ) in the end, toooooo hot to be fannying about trying to get cables thru bulkheads and all that malarky 

[chrismec]

Done mine today, had a few issues, went to Maplins gave them pert numbers of bits relay and resistor were ok (total cost£6.19) wire they did not have, so asked for some that would do the job only to get "I'm not qualified to tell you sir" so who is then, no one here that can we're not treained for it try Halfrauds so went there no wire at all
So instead I went to my electrical mate who gave me the wire I needed
Fitted it all except resistor and starter engaged when ignition was turned on
Put resistor in and all good
Watch this space for further developments
I'll put pics in when I can work out how to get them off my phone lol